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  "Hard work never killed anyone," or "I have to give up knitting."

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. humour

  greetings, my aging friends:.

  it's not really a funny subject, our getting old and our bodies falling apart.

  sure, as the saying goes, hard work won't kill you, but it can wear out your body.

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  Bungi Bill

  I was going to make some wisecrack such as "They say hard work never killed anyone - but I am not taking any chances", - before realising that this is indeed a serious matter.

  Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI) is a rather common condition. One of its many sufferers is my wife, who worked for a number of years on an assembly line. Her only task was to lift the cartons of packaged garlic bread off a conveyor line and stack these on a pallet. While the cartons were not particularly heavy, just the sheer rate of repitition was enough to, in the end, cause irreversible injury to her back.

  With the wisdom of hindsight, industry now realises the importance of rotating tasks around, so that nobody is performing the same repetitive movements for prolonged periods of time. Also, ergonomics plays a part; such things as the position of the computer's display relative to your eyes, position of the keyboard relative to your elbows, the height of your chair off the floor and its providing adequate lower-back support all play a part.

  Of course, getting older doesn't help! There is a danger in that as young persons, we can seemingly get away with a lot - as in the handling and lifting heavy objects. It does come back to bite you, though, when you get older!
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  Are there 'ultra strict' congregations?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i studied as a young adult, it was in one of those congregations.

  having viewed the religion as a quaint little band of christians it conpletely dumbfounded me when i was told about such rules as 1 - no beards.

  2 - you must wear a suit to meetings and while giving a talk.

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  It is extremely uncommon in this district to see any man wearing a suit.

  The town's mayor turned up yesterday morning at our place of work, to thank everybody for their efforts in restoring power supplies after the two recent natural disasters. He readily volunteered that the only reason he was wearing a suit was because he was on his way to the airport, to welcome a group of visiting dignatories.

  A bible-thumper strutting around in a suit stands out like a flashing light in this district. During the humid heat of a Bay of Plenty summer, people would actually regard that as madness. Furthermore, they would not be too far wrong, either!
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  JW's And Their Education Level

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.

  cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.

  how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.

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  Bungi Bill

  I only remember one congregation in which a number of persons had university qualifications. This was one of the English-speaking congegations in Papua New Guinea, and in that way, was rather different. In PNG, English is the language of business, government and the professions. As a consequence, this congegation's members were drawn mainly from the educated middle class of Papua New Guinean society (together with a smattering of expatriates, such as myself).

  Other than that, all the other congregations I knew about had more than the usual complement of carpet cleaners, pest control technicians,farm hands, timber yard workers, concreters, roofers etc. I was not altogether popular when I entred into an adult apprenticeship at the age of 24. Then, when I undertook a paper in advanced trade studies (in order to get into my preferred field, electrical testing), some positively had the daggers out for me. However, by then I knew enough about what was what to mentally give those individuals the good old "two-fingered salute". That felt bloody good, too!

  Winston Churchill is on record as saying "To try is to risk failure. To fail to try is to guarantee it." People as individuals should be free to at least attempt an education. Should they make the attempt, there is, of course, a to risk of failure (whether due personal limitations, lack of application or whatever). Others may realise beforehand that they are never going to be an academic, and thus elect another career choice. (There are many such people about, and it does not mean that they are stupid. My own father was a case in point, and a fool he was not!) Certain other persons may begin a university degree course, but then realise it is not for them, and elect for something else (that happened to a school friend of mine - and once again, a fool he was not, either!). But at least everyone ought to be given that choice to make for themselves.

  It should not be left to seven old f@#t$ in New York to make that blanket choice "No!" for everybody. To do so is to fullful what Churchill observed and guarantee an automatic failure in academic acheivement:

  - i.e. Failure in results brought about by failure to even begin!
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  Are there 'ultra strict' congregations?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i studied as a young adult, it was in one of those congregations.

  having viewed the religion as a quaint little band of christians it conpletely dumbfounded me when i was told about such rules as 1 - no beards.

  2 - you must wear a suit to meetings and while giving a talk.

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  Bungi Bill

  The JW's prohibition on beards is enforced just as rigidly in those countries where it is commonplace to see bearded men about in the community.

  One such example is Papua New Guinea, where many - perhaps even most - men wear beards. They are certainly common in public life; most of the countries top business and professional men wear full beards, as have a number of their recent prime ministers.

  It makes no difference to the JWs, though. When a man comes "Into The Truth", then off comes the beard!

  If ever there was a purely man-made rule, this would have to be it.
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Yer right .......... you are a bloody Troll!
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Bungi Bill

  when they realize what a terrible world they have been born into.

  
  

  But is it , though?
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  JW Double Standards and Hypocrisy in the Congregation!!!

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am sure you have stories as well of elders being a hard ass on many, yet turning a blind eye to the 'sins' of their own family or close connections.

  cheers everyone!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma1auaur2o.

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  Bungi Bill

  To all too many JWs, a drinking problem means "two hands and only one mouth"!
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Bungi Bill

  I still reckon that the Age of Enlightenment / Age of Reason had more impact for the better than religion ever did. Christians may have had the advantage of the New Testament and its "Gospel of Peace", but it did not always do them a lot of good.

  The irony of this was not missed on "Heathens"; a parody of the hymn "Onward Christain Soldiers" reads as follows:

  Onward Christian soldiers, into Heathen lands,

  Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.

  Bring the happy tidings, where trade might be done.

  Spread the Peaceful Gospel, with your Maxim Gun.

  Firearms buffs will recognise the Maxim Gun as the world's first automatically firing machine gun. During the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, it was the Weapon of Mass Destruction, and the Eurpoean colonial powers made widespread use of it to "pacify" the "savages" of Asia and Africa.
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  Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many times did you hear that gem?

  it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

  i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

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  Bungi Bill

  All I can say is that if the JW way of life is the "best" one, I would hate to see the worst one!
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Oh yes, we are definitely becoming worser!